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Suggestions / Re: Suggestions to game mechanics
« on: October 07, 2022, 04:12 »No it's not needed.
What is not?
My suggestions are sorely needed indeed.
Having fucking robot armor lol. But no Hub robe.
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What is not?
My suggestions are sorely needed indeed.
Having fucking robot armor lol. But no Hub robe.
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Gangs / Re: Faction Icons
« on: October 07, 2022, 04:09 »So let's try this again. Nr 242, The Iron Legion.
https://imgur.com/lfGg4Vt
BUMP
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Suggestions / General suggestions
« on: October 12, 2021, 18:00 »
General annoyances and suggestions to improve on them in the future of FOnline 2:
- RT/TB combat timeout is inconsistent.
You can leave to WM on a caravan in RT through leader at any time, but not through grid if in RT combat. Never tried using leader that way in TB but I will assume you can't go to WM that way while in TB. Other way around you can leave on grid in TB combat, while you can't do certain other actions like FA without using all AP (but without cooldown, lol) or Doc (without bag is it?) while in TB combat, or sneak, or leave via vehicle.
My only suggestion to clear these inconsistencies:
+ Let timeout in both modes only affect FA and Doctor, by not allowing them in combat at all, only relying on drugs instead. This will also make dueling much faster, if you run out of stims in combat, or if you get crippled. Then if you get crippled you can still leave, fix it on WM and come back.
- The weapon/vehicle conditions system is inconsistent and unrealistic.
Melee weapons of the lowest tier never wear out. Obviously, realistically they do, but not as fast as guns deteriorate in FOnline 2, not even close.
Some guns shouldn't even experience much tear through firing, like lasers and gauss, because of the lack of interior moving parts, except for the projectile in the gauss, but it doesn't touch the inside of the barrel. Nevermind that all energy weapons have a funny unrealistic recoil, because that unrealistic stuff has always been part and parcel of most scifi and I realize such drastic changing of animations for such a minor thing is not feasible to ask for.
Some general suggestions I have to add on this note:
+ Make guns like Solar Scorcher either craftable or remove condition on it altogether. Instead, it could only be destroyed by exploding if you aim hand on the wielder of it, or through the current catastrophic misfire via Jinx. This fix would make Solar Scorcher ideal for low level PvE farming, especially for sneakers.
+ Make Gauss ammo craftable. If you know anything about how real gauss weapons systems work you know that the ammo is even simpler than bullets. It's just some metal molded and polished the right shape, no casings or gunpowder. On the other hand, real gauss basically have two "ammos", the projectile and the electricity used to propel it, so EC or MFC could be part of the recipe perhaps.
+ Make all unique weapons either indestructible or infinitely repairable like a vehicle, or at the very least infinitely repairable if character has something like Junk or Metal Parts and tools in inventory when attempting repair, even for normally uncraftable weapons. This last part could go for CA as well, by adding kevlar to it, say every piece of kevlar added gives a set amount of renewed %.
+ On a more scifi note, add in more Alien tech in the lore perhaps? In particular I am thinking of something like a very rare loot (think: Alien Epoxy in New Vegas) to upgrade weapons and vehicles with, like giving them new durability or making them auto-repair (removing condition) or giving vehicles and energy weapons auto-recharge (not necessarily like Solar Scorcher but slowly regenerating by itself perhaps).
+ Require tools to repair vehicle.
- The movement is clunky, and I'm not just talking about how we have to keep clicking continuously to move.
+ Just fix it any way you please.
+ Allowing firing while moving if possible, even if aim is shit.
- You have robot armor in sim but no Hub robe, making it silly and at the same time impossible to truly practice sneak PvP in there. If people for any reason want any items at all banned in sim fights just add a hosting option of a ban list, not just Tier system.
- I know it's in the lore, but there really is not much difference between drugs like Mentats (nootropics) and Jet (amphetamines) in real life, why even have both?
And why is there no Charisma boost from alcohol, at least under a certain limit of bottles?
Misc items, traps, gadgets and utilities:
- Does geiger counter even see any use?
+ Add radiation suits.
+ Make food and water edible and decrease amount of junk items, this is also where geiger counter could find real use, to check for radiation in edibles.
+ Expand the range of motion sensors, even better, make them more useful on WM to detect if there are players in general in the same zone (presented as message listing x amount of y creatures and z amount of wastelanders in zone xx:yy), not just the Outdoors boost.
- What's up with infinite flares in bases?
+ Add actual lamps?
+ Make gadgets with condition rechargeable or infinitely repairable.
+ Make Super Tool Kit craftable with x amount of regular Tools, Wrench, Sledge, Knife, Crowbar and Metal Parts as recipe.
+ Make wrench and crowbar, sledges and knives give minor repair boost.
+ Make First Aid Kit craftable so you can make use of cloth with alcohol and other drugs.
+ Make mines craftable.
+ Make beartraps an actual item, craftable and reusable.
Critters:
+ Add companions, slaves and ownable cattle.
+ Add 3-tiered Animal Friend perk, ending in becoming a Beastlord.
+ Remove the cleaning bot or make it a companion.
WM:
+ Make coordinate = encounter system, realistic and consistent without weird rules about how long or how many times you've been in any specific encounter. I'm not even gonna complain about how the map layout of the encounter changes on the same coordinate.
Vehicles:
+ Make vehicles drivable inside encounters. I know original FO2 doesn't have such animations and that Fallout Tactics was in a different engine, but if you would add only one set of animations, please add vehicles in encounters.
The weight and storage system is TOTALLY inconsistent and unrealistic.
- Things that should have weight doesn't.
- Things that by logical comparison then also shouldn't have weight still does.
- Things that weigh tons on a character can fit infinitely in containers like a car trunk.
- Containers with the same dimensions differ vastly in storage space because one is default in a base while the other is crafted, some are so vast in storage space for some stuff that they are as magical as sapient pearwood luggage.
+ Add craftable, lockable containers and compartments that cannot be detected by highlighting contours or any means, unless someone knew exactly where to look.
Bases:
Not being able to locate the unmanaged ones on WM is one of the most unrealistic aspects of this game, not to mention some actions can't be done in them unless the character is managing it. Or the fact that locations of tents can't be shared after making them. Now, do hear me out on this topic.
If you followed my suggestions so far, it is still possible to avoid the obvious horrors here, because:
If we were able to have companions and player-owned combat bots.
If we were able to craft traps.
If we were able to install hidden containers and hidden doors.
If the same coordinate always meant the same encounter, a base in this case.
Then we could defend our bases and hide our valuables even if hostile players found a way in.
This would also make people actually find real use for renting houses (which should be expanded) in safe towns and owning bank accounts. Add in the feature of at least some NPC vendors (in unsafe territories if you so wish) ALWAYS having caps to trade for any item, or the possibility to have a box in a bank vault for items, and you would then have yourself a very interesting mechanic going on.
You would create a bustling in-game economy and create randomly generated player-owned mini-dungeons at the same time, bases that would continuously switch owners, even if some stuff would still be in there that might never be found by the new owners. I imagine you would also cut down the number of server crashing item hoarders drastically.
Encounters:
Basically make them persistent as long as there is a player, companion or base there.
- RT/TB combat timeout is inconsistent.
You can leave to WM on a caravan in RT through leader at any time, but not through grid if in RT combat. Never tried using leader that way in TB but I will assume you can't go to WM that way while in TB. Other way around you can leave on grid in TB combat, while you can't do certain other actions like FA without using all AP (but without cooldown, lol) or Doc (without bag is it?) while in TB combat, or sneak, or leave via vehicle.
My only suggestion to clear these inconsistencies:
+ Let timeout in both modes only affect FA and Doctor, by not allowing them in combat at all, only relying on drugs instead. This will also make dueling much faster, if you run out of stims in combat, or if you get crippled. Then if you get crippled you can still leave, fix it on WM and come back.
- The weapon/vehicle conditions system is inconsistent and unrealistic.
Melee weapons of the lowest tier never wear out. Obviously, realistically they do, but not as fast as guns deteriorate in FOnline 2, not even close.
Some guns shouldn't even experience much tear through firing, like lasers and gauss, because of the lack of interior moving parts, except for the projectile in the gauss, but it doesn't touch the inside of the barrel. Nevermind that all energy weapons have a funny unrealistic recoil, because that unrealistic stuff has always been part and parcel of most scifi and I realize such drastic changing of animations for such a minor thing is not feasible to ask for.
Some general suggestions I have to add on this note:
+ Make guns like Solar Scorcher either craftable or remove condition on it altogether. Instead, it could only be destroyed by exploding if you aim hand on the wielder of it, or through the current catastrophic misfire via Jinx. This fix would make Solar Scorcher ideal for low level PvE farming, especially for sneakers.
+ Make Gauss ammo craftable. If you know anything about how real gauss weapons systems work you know that the ammo is even simpler than bullets. It's just some metal molded and polished the right shape, no casings or gunpowder. On the other hand, real gauss basically have two "ammos", the projectile and the electricity used to propel it, so EC or MFC could be part of the recipe perhaps.
+ Make all unique weapons either indestructible or infinitely repairable like a vehicle, or at the very least infinitely repairable if character has something like Junk or Metal Parts and tools in inventory when attempting repair, even for normally uncraftable weapons. This last part could go for CA as well, by adding kevlar to it, say every piece of kevlar added gives a set amount of renewed %.
+ On a more scifi note, add in more Alien tech in the lore perhaps? In particular I am thinking of something like a very rare loot (think: Alien Epoxy in New Vegas) to upgrade weapons and vehicles with, like giving them new durability or making them auto-repair (removing condition) or giving vehicles and energy weapons auto-recharge (not necessarily like Solar Scorcher but slowly regenerating by itself perhaps).
+ Require tools to repair vehicle.
- The movement is clunky, and I'm not just talking about how we have to keep clicking continuously to move.
+ Just fix it any way you please.
+ Allowing firing while moving if possible, even if aim is shit.
- You have robot armor in sim but no Hub robe, making it silly and at the same time impossible to truly practice sneak PvP in there. If people for any reason want any items at all banned in sim fights just add a hosting option of a ban list, not just Tier system.
- I know it's in the lore, but there really is not much difference between drugs like Mentats (nootropics) and Jet (amphetamines) in real life, why even have both?
And why is there no Charisma boost from alcohol, at least under a certain limit of bottles?
Misc items, traps, gadgets and utilities:
- Does geiger counter even see any use?
+ Add radiation suits.
+ Make food and water edible and decrease amount of junk items, this is also where geiger counter could find real use, to check for radiation in edibles.
+ Expand the range of motion sensors, even better, make them more useful on WM to detect if there are players in general in the same zone (presented as message listing x amount of y creatures and z amount of wastelanders in zone xx:yy), not just the Outdoors boost.
- What's up with infinite flares in bases?
+ Add actual lamps?
+ Make gadgets with condition rechargeable or infinitely repairable.
+ Make Super Tool Kit craftable with x amount of regular Tools, Wrench, Sledge, Knife, Crowbar and Metal Parts as recipe.
+ Make wrench and crowbar, sledges and knives give minor repair boost.
+ Make First Aid Kit craftable so you can make use of cloth with alcohol and other drugs.
+ Make mines craftable.
+ Make beartraps an actual item, craftable and reusable.
Critters:
+ Add companions, slaves and ownable cattle.
+ Add 3-tiered Animal Friend perk, ending in becoming a Beastlord.
+ Remove the cleaning bot or make it a companion.
WM:
+ Make coordinate = encounter system, realistic and consistent without weird rules about how long or how many times you've been in any specific encounter. I'm not even gonna complain about how the map layout of the encounter changes on the same coordinate.
Vehicles:
+ Make vehicles drivable inside encounters. I know original FO2 doesn't have such animations and that Fallout Tactics was in a different engine, but if you would add only one set of animations, please add vehicles in encounters.
The weight and storage system is TOTALLY inconsistent and unrealistic.
- Things that should have weight doesn't.
- Things that by logical comparison then also shouldn't have weight still does.
- Things that weigh tons on a character can fit infinitely in containers like a car trunk.
- Containers with the same dimensions differ vastly in storage space because one is default in a base while the other is crafted, some are so vast in storage space for some stuff that they are as magical as sapient pearwood luggage.
+ Add craftable, lockable containers and compartments that cannot be detected by highlighting contours or any means, unless someone knew exactly where to look.
Bases:
Not being able to locate the unmanaged ones on WM is one of the most unrealistic aspects of this game, not to mention some actions can't be done in them unless the character is managing it. Or the fact that locations of tents can't be shared after making them. Now, do hear me out on this topic.
If you followed my suggestions so far, it is still possible to avoid the obvious horrors here, because:
If we were able to have companions and player-owned combat bots.
If we were able to craft traps.
If we were able to install hidden containers and hidden doors.
If the same coordinate always meant the same encounter, a base in this case.
Then we could defend our bases and hide our valuables even if hostile players found a way in.
This would also make people actually find real use for renting houses (which should be expanded) in safe towns and owning bank accounts. Add in the feature of at least some NPC vendors (in unsafe territories if you so wish) ALWAYS having caps to trade for any item, or the possibility to have a box in a bank vault for items, and you would then have yourself a very interesting mechanic going on.
You would create a bustling in-game economy and create randomly generated player-owned mini-dungeons at the same time, bases that would continuously switch owners, even if some stuff would still be in there that might never be found by the new owners. I imagine you would also cut down the number of server crashing item hoarders drastically.
Encounters:
Basically make them persistent as long as there is a player, companion or base there.
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Gangs / Re: Faction Icons
« on: June 21, 2021, 01:19 »
So let's try this again. Nr 242, The Iron Legion.
https://imgur.com/lfGg4Vt
https://imgur.com/lfGg4Vt
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Suggestions / Re: Suggestions to game mechanics
« on: August 02, 2020, 19:23 »
Devs, please add Hub robe, stealth boys, motion detectors, mines and Waki blade to sim, and a host option (permanent setting that doesn't need to be repeated between matches) to disable some or all of these if people don't want sneaks in a particular game.
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Gangs / The Iron Legion
« on: July 29, 2020, 20:23 »
Lore:
Seeing that Caesar's aims were only self-serving, those secretly loyal to similar ideas as those of Joshua Graham, banded together in the Legion and ventured out into the wasteland on their own. They brought with them the basic ideals of the Legion, albeit for different ends, believing as Graham that we can't expect God to do everything. They saw to become the Iron Rod of the Lord, spoken of in the Good Book.
Neither abhorring nor fully condoning slavery as it had been known in the past, The Iron Legion justified slavery only as a way to punish wrongdoers. Since food was scarce, any tribal of their ranks that broke their law, could not be afforded to just be sitting around in a cage, they were either hanged, flogged or put to forced labor if they broke the code of honor, oppressed the poor, cannibalized humans, killed innocents or the like.
Setting before them the vision of rebuilding a greater Christian civilization with essentially the same hierarchical structure as the Legion, to defend the weak and avenge the victims of the wastes, a band of brothers emerged alongside, people who had left both the Brotherhood of Steel and even the Enclave. The old techno-phobia of the Legion was discarded, as they merged with the rogue Brotherhood and renegade Enclave elements, nor was technology worshiped, as in the old Brotherhood ranks. Rather Christ, Justice and Honor were the new central tenets. A Just Hierarchy For A Just Cause, not for power in and of itself. To rebuild the wastes and to do good, even by brutal means.
Tribals eventually formed an embryonic Iron Imperium parallel to Caesar's Legion, having separated themselves from their heathen ways and going on an Exodus into the Western Wasteland. Still being large in ranks, merged with rogue parts of the Brotherhood of Steel and Enclave, while still organizing all tribals as Caesar had once intended through forced conscription, but no longer held back by any fear of technology or chemistry, The Iron Legion hailed a glorious new dawn. The wastes were ripe for taking, the scum ready to be crushed, and the masses were crying out for Iron to avenge them. The Iron Legionary Crusade continues.
A message from the Lord Commander:
Faith, Family and Fatherland will march in close ranks with us in fully restored spirit every time we defiantly raise The Black Banner of Fascism to the defense of everything righteous, good and true still worth defending in this vile world.
Against the turbulent tide of the zeitgeist we let our incorruptible Christ-centered counter-current surge forth from laying down our lives for a cause greater than the mere husks of mortality in spent rat races.
Against all odds.
Against all forces of greed and depravity.
Against the pitfalls of misguided virtues.
Against tyranny and chaos.
For the little man.
For the seemingly weak that God chose in undoing the mighty powers of wickedness ruling this world.
For the slights and wrongs and every cut and bruise.
For the unheard, helpless and voiceless snuffed out in the dark of night, whose blood is crying for Holy Vengeance from the soil of the providential Fatherland.
For Poetic Justice and Divine Wrath.
Cross your swords with The Iron Legion and slay the dragons of our age.
Game info:
+International, you have to know some English.
+Leadership is in +1 GMT timezone. Normal local gaming hours for us are between 6-12 pm.
+PvP, PvE, dungeons, etc, we are open for suggestions from rank and file on activities.
+Internal trading benefits.
+You don't have to be self-sufficient or a regular player to join, but to rise in ranks you have to be a good, loyal and dedicated player.
+Discord only, and you must have it. Server: https://discord.gg/pkk465T
Seeing that Caesar's aims were only self-serving, those secretly loyal to similar ideas as those of Joshua Graham, banded together in the Legion and ventured out into the wasteland on their own. They brought with them the basic ideals of the Legion, albeit for different ends, believing as Graham that we can't expect God to do everything. They saw to become the Iron Rod of the Lord, spoken of in the Good Book.
Neither abhorring nor fully condoning slavery as it had been known in the past, The Iron Legion justified slavery only as a way to punish wrongdoers. Since food was scarce, any tribal of their ranks that broke their law, could not be afforded to just be sitting around in a cage, they were either hanged, flogged or put to forced labor if they broke the code of honor, oppressed the poor, cannibalized humans, killed innocents or the like.
Setting before them the vision of rebuilding a greater Christian civilization with essentially the same hierarchical structure as the Legion, to defend the weak and avenge the victims of the wastes, a band of brothers emerged alongside, people who had left both the Brotherhood of Steel and even the Enclave. The old techno-phobia of the Legion was discarded, as they merged with the rogue Brotherhood and renegade Enclave elements, nor was technology worshiped, as in the old Brotherhood ranks. Rather Christ, Justice and Honor were the new central tenets. A Just Hierarchy For A Just Cause, not for power in and of itself. To rebuild the wastes and to do good, even by brutal means.
Tribals eventually formed an embryonic Iron Imperium parallel to Caesar's Legion, having separated themselves from their heathen ways and going on an Exodus into the Western Wasteland. Still being large in ranks, merged with rogue parts of the Brotherhood of Steel and Enclave, while still organizing all tribals as Caesar had once intended through forced conscription, but no longer held back by any fear of technology or chemistry, The Iron Legion hailed a glorious new dawn. The wastes were ripe for taking, the scum ready to be crushed, and the masses were crying out for Iron to avenge them. The Iron Legionary Crusade continues.
A message from the Lord Commander:
Faith, Family and Fatherland will march in close ranks with us in fully restored spirit every time we defiantly raise The Black Banner of Fascism to the defense of everything righteous, good and true still worth defending in this vile world.
Against the turbulent tide of the zeitgeist we let our incorruptible Christ-centered counter-current surge forth from laying down our lives for a cause greater than the mere husks of mortality in spent rat races.
Against all odds.
Against all forces of greed and depravity.
Against the pitfalls of misguided virtues.
Against tyranny and chaos.
For the little man.
For the seemingly weak that God chose in undoing the mighty powers of wickedness ruling this world.
For the slights and wrongs and every cut and bruise.
For the unheard, helpless and voiceless snuffed out in the dark of night, whose blood is crying for Holy Vengeance from the soil of the providential Fatherland.
For Poetic Justice and Divine Wrath.
Cross your swords with The Iron Legion and slay the dragons of our age.
Game info:
+International, you have to know some English.
+Leadership is in +1 GMT timezone. Normal local gaming hours for us are between 6-12 pm.
+PvP, PvE, dungeons, etc, we are open for suggestions from rank and file on activities.
+Internal trading benefits.
+You don't have to be self-sufficient or a regular player to join, but to rise in ranks you have to be a good, loyal and dedicated player.
+Discord only, and you must have it. Server: https://discord.gg/pkk465T
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