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Re: Pre Announcement of Maintenance incoming on 21.10.
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2018, 18:15 »
thanks devs for you work and for alerting players in time. you gave us around 36 hours to prepare, which is fucking ridiculous, not everybody spends their life in front of the computer playing this shitty "made by retards for retards" award winner game. now we have our bases fucked up and even some stuff have lost besides the junk. great work! organizing and managing things at its finest. seriously considering to chargeback donations at this point.

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Re: Pre Announcement of Maintenance incoming on 21.10.
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2018, 18:21 »
thanks devs for you work and for alerting players in time. you gave us around 36 hours to prepare, which is fucking ridiculous, not everybody spends their life in front of the computer playing this shitty "made by retards for retards" award winner game. now we have our bases fucked up and even some stuff have lost besides the junk. great work! organizing and managing things at its finest. seriously considering to chargeback donations at this point.
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Re: Pre Announcement of Maintenance incoming on 21.10.
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2018, 20:39 »
thanks devs for you work and for alerting players in time. you gave us around 36 hours to prepare, which is fucking ridiculous, not everybody spends their life in front of the computer playing this shitty "made by retards for retards" award winner game. now we have our bases fucked up and even some stuff have lost besides the junk. great work! organizing and managing things at its finest. seriously considering to chargeback donations at this point.
you lost 0 items, actually you have more caps and free box in every tent/base. Your base was cleaned for free. you Donate something and want it back? WTF!
« Last Edit: October 22, 2018, 20:58 by LittleBoy »

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Re: Pre Announcement of Maintenance incoming on 21.10.
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2018, 21:26 »
the problem is, he's fucking right. some items such as tragic cards and probably others were deleted (and they were NOT on the list. i just double checked) while items such as ropes, papers and tobacco (and alot more useless items, yes paper and tobacco is useless who the fuck craft cigs anyways) still remains. and the worst part is those items were surely traded for their base values and not the value you'd get if you played that ghoul (and to hell the exp too while we're at it)

The devs knew and worked for weeks before making that update, yet they announced it 36 hours before they launched it. giving people the minimal time and information (proof is the incomplete list on forums. some items that are not on the list also got wiped) required to act upon this update

And now we get to the best part, why did they need to play in people's cars ! this is a major loss of time for everyone involved ! just yesterday i took my car casually without thinking about it and ran out of gas in the middle of the fucking desert....TWICE. why in all hells did they need to stack shit in people's car ? everyone is just stuck with x ammount of cars to restock and it gained 1 god damn MB of memory on the server, 1mb thats gonna be right back there as soon as everyone will restock their cars in 1-3 days. im not even talking about people with a severe case of OCD and a clean base.

Devs recieved suggestions about puting an unlimited weight capacity on lockers to prevent carpets of crap in bases (because obviously if someone has 300 CAs it doesnt all stack up in a fucking locker, it takes 3, and the robot is too stupid to make the distinction between CAs and metal armors)but they listen to nothing. they rather tel people to use the broken robot cause : ''he can stack lockers overweight''.

Anyways. TL:DR : This update was a shitshow for everyone involved. Why touch people's cars, lack of information from the devs, and they refuse to listen to the community's suggestions. Oh yeah and goblin_shekel is right

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Re: Pre Announcement of Maintenance incoming on 21.10.
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2018, 22:13 »
One question. Was it really necessary to move all of my ammunition, crafting materials and drugs from seperate containters they were in into one footlocker all together with the junk from the floor? lol I mean, how am I supposed to move hundred thousands of ammo/thousands of metal parts back to separate lockers? ;D

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Re: Pre Announcement of Maintenance incoming on 21.10.
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2018, 22:26 »
It took me about 50 minutes to redistribute my goods following my previous rules. I play since server start. I've got also about 230k caps for nothing. It's like 1 hour = 230k caps. I would never farm so much in a regular way. So I don't understand your ridiculous posts. You are behaving like shitheads just because you got something for free. I poor you stupid ungrateful people...
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Re: Pre Announcement of Maintenance incoming on 21.10.
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2018, 22:46 »
This maintenance has not happened out of whim but a necessity. The Sunday was the deadline for us as much as it was for everyone else.

Yes, we should've mentioned that a few days before. We did announcement as soon as we finished the whole cleanup system code.

(Which proved to have multiple faults anyway that caused issues.)

There was a choice between it or having unplayable server meltdowns all the time. Please understand that.

Wrong was to stack cars, when I think about it now I think we could've checked if the bases were used in last month and ignore vehicles if so. Well. People learn on mistakes, that includes us.

Tragic cards weren't on the list, they were removed from it. Problem is the script ended up using the previous list before contributors rebalanced it (which meant that even 25% chance to win decks gave player 1000 caps in the base per deck.) - This was found out as people notified us that tragic cards are missing.

The list script ENDED UP AS USING by our mistake.
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PID_BLUE_CONDOM, payment: 15
PID_GREEN_CONDOM, payment: 15
PID_RED_CONDOM, payment: 15
PID_DICE, payment: 5
PID_LOADED_DICE, payment: 20
PID_BOTTLE_EMPTY, payment: 1
PID_BOX_OF_NOODLES, payment: 35
PID_KEYS, payment: 4
PID_LIGHTER, payment: 100
PID_MEAT_JERKY, payment: 5
PID_OIL_CAN, payment: 15
PID_WATER_FLASK, payment: 25
PID_VIC_WATER_FLASK, payment: 30
PID_COSMETIC_CASE, payment: 10
PID_GOLD_LOCKET, payment: 60
PID_ANNA_GOLD_LOCKET, payment: 40
PID_CYBERNETIC_BRAIN, payment: 20
PID_HUMAN_BRAIN, payment: 10
PID_CHIMP_BRAIN, payment: 10
PID_ABNORMAL_BRAIN, payment: 10
PID_EYE, payment: 10
PID_DIXON_EYE, payment: 10
PID_TANGLERS_HAND, payment: 10
PID_EMPTY_JET, payment: 1
PID_BIO_GEL, payment: 10
PID_PSYCHO_BLUEPRINTS, payment: 10
PID_BUFFOUT_BLUEPRINTS, payment: 10
PID_RAD_X_BLUEPRINTS, payment: 10
PID_RADAWAY_BLUEPRINTS, payment: 10
PID_FRAG_GRENADE_BLUEPRINTS, payment: 10
PID_CORNELIUS_GOLD_WATCH, payment: 700
PID_WRENCH, payment: 65
PID_BLUE_PASS_KEY, payment: 10
PID_YELLOW_PASS_KEY, payment: 40
PID_RED_PASS_KEY, payment: 10
PID_CHEMISTRY_MANUAL, payment: 100
PID_FUZZY_PAINTING, payment: 300
PID_GOLD_TOOTH, payment: 50
PID_MACHINED_HIGH_GRADE_STEEL, payment: 400
PID_MEDICAL_SUPPLIES, payment: 50
PID_NECKLACE, payment: 700
PID_SPECTACLES, payment: 50
PID_MIRROR_SHADES, payment: 20
PID_TOXIC_GECKO_PELT, payment: 500
PID_DECK_OF_TRAGIC_CARDS, payment: 10
PID_DECK_OF_CARDS, payment: 1000
PID_MARKED_DECK_OF_CARDS, payment: 1000
PID_RED_GLOW_KEYCARD, payment: 300
PID_YELLOW_GLOW_KEYCARD, payment: 200
PID_IGUANA_ON_A_STICK, payment: 20
PID_MEAT_ON_A_STICK, payment: 8
PID_BOOZE, payment: 10
PID_PRESIDENTIAL_PASS, payment: 10
PID_PSYCHIC_NULLIFIER, payment: 10
PID_NEURAL_INTERFACE, payment: 10
PID_FROZEN_DINNER, payment: 10
PID_SE_VILLAGE_BROTHERHOOD_TAG, payment: 100
PID_SE_BOS_HOLODISK, payment: 100
PID_GOLD_NUGGET, payment: 10
PID_GEIGER_COUNTER, payment: 100
PID_ACTIVE_GEIGER_COUNTER, payment: 100
PID_HEART_PILLS, payment: 100
PID_SCORPION_TAIL, payment: 10
PID_HYPODERMIC_NEEDLE, payment: 1
PID_BRIEFCASE, payment: 10
PID_MOORE_BAD_BRIEFCASE, payment: 10
PID_MOORE_GOOD_BRIEFCASE, payment: 10
PID_MPART_1, payment: 500
PID_MPART_2, payment: 500
PID_MPART_3, payment: 500
PID_MPART_4, payment: 500
PID_EPART_1, payment: 900
PID_EPART_2, payment: 900
PID_EPART_3, payment: 900
PID_EPART_4, payment: 900
PID_EPART_5, payment: 900
PID_PREWAR_1, payment: 700
PID_PREWAR_2, payment: 700
PID_PREWAR_3, payment: 700
missing, payment: 10
PID_SPRINGER_RIFLE, payment: 10
PID_ZIP_GUN, payment: 10
PID_PLANT_SPIKE, payment: 1
PID_THROWING_KNIFE_BLUEPRINTS, payment: 10
PID_EMPTY_WATER_BAG , payment: 10
PID_FULL_WATER_BAG , payment: 10
PID_RADSCORPION_PARTS, payment: 10
missing, payment: 1
PID_EXPLOSIVE_SWITCH, payment: 1
PID_TOGGLE_SWITCH, payment: 1
missing, payment: 1
PID_STEEL, payment: 1
PID_SANDBAG_EMPTY, payment: 1
PID_MEAT, payment: 10
PID_BEER, payment: 10
PID_BOOZE, payment: 10
PID_GAMMA_GULP_BEER, payment: 10
PID_ROENTGEN_RUM, payment: 10


The lower one here was the contributor optimized list that we wanted to use. If someone's interested.
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PID_BLUE_CONDOM, payment: 15
PID_GREEN_CONDOM, payment: 15
PID_RED_CONDOM, payment: 15
PID_DICE, payment: 5
PID_LOADED_DICE, payment: 20
PID_BOTTLE_EMPTY, payment: 1
PID_BOX_OF_NOODLES, payment: 35
PID_KEYS, payment: 4
PID_LIGHTER, payment: 10
PID_MEAT_JERKY, payment: 5
PID_OIL_CAN, payment: 15
PID_WATER_FLASK, payment: 25
PID_VIC_WATER_FLASK, payment: 30
PID_COSMETIC_CASE, payment: 10
PID_GOLD_LOCKET, payment: 60
PID_ANNA_GOLD_LOCKET, payment: 40
PID_CYBERNETIC_BRAIN, payment: 20
PID_HUMAN_BRAIN, payment: 10
PID_CHIMP_BRAIN, payment: 10
PID_ABNORMAL_BRAIN, payment: 10
PID_EYE, payment: 10
PID_DIXON_EYE, payment: 10
PID_TANGLERS_HAND, payment: 10
PID_EMPTY_JET, payment: 1
PID_BIO_GEL, payment: 10
PID_PSYCHO_BLUEPRINTS, payment: 10
PID_BUFFOUT_BLUEPRINTS, payment: 10
PID_RAD_X_BLUEPRINTS, payment: 10
PID_RADAWAY_BLUEPRINTS, payment: 10
PID_FRAG_GRENADE_BLUEPRINTS, payment: 10
PID_CORNELIUS_GOLD_WATCH, payment: 700
PID_WRENCH, payment: 15
PID_BLUE_PASS_KEY, payment: 10
PID_YELLOW_PASS_KEY, payment: 40
PID_RED_PASS_KEY, payment: 10
PID_CHEMISTRY_MANUAL, payment: 20
PID_FUZZY_PAINTING, payment: 300
PID_GOLD_TOOTH, payment: 50
PID_MACHINED_HIGH_GRADE_STEEL, payment: 400
PID_MEDICAL_SUPPLIES, payment: 50
PID_NECKLACE, payment: 700
PID_SPECTACLES, payment: 50
PID_MIRROR_SHADES, payment: 20
PID_TOXIC_GECKO_PELT, payment: 50
PID_MARKED_DECK_OF_CARDS, payment: 10
PID_RED_GLOW_KEYCARD, payment: 300
PID_YELLOW_GLOW_KEYCARD, payment: 200
PID_IGUANA_ON_A_STICK, payment: 20
PID_MEAT_ON_A_STICK, payment: 8
PID_PRESIDENTIAL_PASS, payment: 100
PID_PSYCHIC_NULLIFIER, payment: 10
PID_NEURAL_INTERFACE, payment: 10
PID_FROZEN_DINNER, payment: 10
PID_SE_VILLAGE_BROTHERHOOD_TAG, payment: 200
PID_SE_BOS_HOLODISK, payment: 200
PID_GOLD_NUGGET, payment: 10
PID_GEIGER_COUNTER, payment: 100
PID_ACTIVE_GEIGER_COUNTER, payment: 100
PID_HEART_PILLS, payment: 100
PID_SCORPION_TAIL, payment: 10
PID_HYPODERMIC_NEEDLE, payment: 1
PID_BRIEFCASE, payment: 10
PID_MOORE_BAD_BRIEFCASE, payment: 10
PID_MOORE_GOOD_BRIEFCASE, payment: 10
PID_MPART_1, payment: 500
PID_MPART_2, payment: 500
PID_MPART_3, payment: 500
PID_MPART_4, payment: 500
PID_EPART_1, payment: 900
PID_EPART_2, payment: 900
PID_EPART_3, payment: 900
PID_EPART_4, payment: 900
PID_EPART_5, payment: 900
PID_PREWAR_1, payment: 700
PID_PREWAR_2, payment: 700
PID_PREWAR_3, payment: 700
missing, payment: 10
PID_SPRINGER_RIFLE, payment: 2
PID_ZIP_GUN, payment: 2
PID_PLANT_SPIKE, payment: 1
PID_THROWING_KNIFE_BLUEPRINTS, payment: 10
PID_EMPTY_WATER_BAG , payment: 10
PID_FULL_WATER_BAG , payment: 10
PID_RADSCORPION_PARTS, payment: 10
missing, payment: 1
PID_EXPLOSIVE_SWITCH, payment: 1
PID_TOGGLE_SWITCH, payment: 1
missing, payment: 1
PID_STEEL, payment: 1
PID_SANDBAG_EMPTY, payment: 1
PID_MEAT, payment: 10
PID_BEER, payment: 10
PID_BOOZE, payment: 10
PID_GAMMA_GULP_BEER, payment: 10
PID_ROENTGEN_RUM, payment: 10

About crafting items like tobacco. We've tried not to delete the items that if someone would use them, he would have to regrind them - No way to mass buy for caps like beer for example.

When we did the announcement and nobody reacted. Nobody was concerned (Well outside 1 person, Drexav ) about the small time frame. So there was no community feedback to listen on this topic.

As for no container memory, that all of them were emptied into a new one - With over 20 thousand of locations to check we had to keep the script optimized, and there was no way to be 100% percent sure that the container we would find with bullets would be the main ammo container.

Sorry guys. We've tried to save the game and it was our priority. We should've communicated better before this, we should've done more checks. We have been in a rush and now we all pay the price.

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My next goal will be to implement some instant base sorting that doesn't work on cleaning bot and will be accessible through terminal and ~terminal command. It will come as a free addition to all bases and let you decide which containers to use for which items and what containers to ignore.

Additionally the idea of lockers. (That came after sorting, not before.) Sounds like a good option. We will think about immensely increasing the container capacity.

Hopefully, those things will optimize all manual base sorting to a minimum.

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Re: Pre Announcement of Maintenance incoming on 21.10.
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2018, 22:56 »
Wesan FFS.

Additionally the idea of lockers. (That came after sorting, not before.) Sounds like a good option. We will think about immensely increasing the container capacity.

I told you that on FRIDAY when you announced it. on discord, and you told me to use the fucking robot ! I pigned you, and you answered me. so please stop plucking shit out of your ass.

what i despise above all else is the lack of communication from the dev team. everything we propose you (the devs OR mods on discord) take it as ''salt'' or ''raging kids'' trying to change your views on your game. just take a look at your formerly number one concurent, reloaded. see what happend to them, see how kilgore reacts to ''contructive'' critisism. it may come out harsh or missworded. but its critisism you guys should listen instead of playing fools and thinking people are fucking dumb.

im not saying that out of spite. yes it was nessesary for the server. yes some people have trash bases filled with junk. yes people make carpets of environmental implants. some other do their part to save the server, delete their excess tents and replace them with bases, throw out junk items cause they know it clogs the server. that one dude said ''i recieved 230k for doing 1h of sorting'' well let me tell you something. i did 3 hours of sorting yesterday, and im not done doing it, still got 9 cars to fill up with regears, ammos, and crap. and if you're so keen on asking how much i recieved. a flat 30k caps. cause i do my fucking part and throw out junk items on world map to save memory on this server. others like boon recieved 900k caps, hextall 1.3kk caps. i dont DARE to imagine how much time they will spend sorting their shit if they recieved such collosal ammount of caps.

It was nessesary, execution was piss poor in my opinion. it should have been Thought out better.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2018, 23:04 by Darlain »

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Re: Pre Announcement of Maintenance incoming on 21.10.
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2018, 23:08 »
A chat channel that people write ponderings around is not the best suggestion form. To be honest I did not even remember your suggestion at all. My bad. Please try using Suggestion forum next time.

You won't change the past. Whatever time it took you to sort out the bases it will be incomparable to effort we've gone through to make things work.

And we've got 0 caps for that since that's an argument point.

You're being overly offensive and I really want to move on so I won't break down this argument further, please stop throwing shit at me and move on too.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2018, 23:10 by Wesan »

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Re: Pre Announcement of Maintenance incoming on 21.10.
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2018, 15:30 »
Noobs gona noob
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Re: Pre Announcement of Maintenance incoming on 21.10.
« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2018, 04:05 »
oh shit, didnt log on to check Babylon, hope this update didnt fuck up my base or so help me I will have to ping Wesan again to spawn me some more implants and tier 4 cos that makes so much sense somehow  ;D   

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Re: Pre Announcement of Maintenance incoming on 21.10.
« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2018, 14:05 »
Good job.Little mess with car trunks but shit happens.Didn't login in ages so that was nice feelling.
Btw if anyone need casual noob with all shit for pvp hit me chanel adress.
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Re: Pre Announcement of Maintenance incoming on 21.10.
« Reply #42 on: October 29, 2018, 18:21 »
Maybe turn off those dumb and annoying yellow messages, do i really have to get them every time i get in to base?
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Re: Pre Announcement of Maintenance incoming on 21.10.
« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2018, 07:37 »
Also good job removing quest items
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Re: Pre Announcement of Maintenance incoming on 21.10.
« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2018, 08:28 »
Also good job removing quest items
You've got payment like for quest man.
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