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Dequ

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Turning + Attack delay
« on: December 10, 2018, 07:43 »
It seems like when your character need to turn into direction of enemy before attacking it cause it to have delay. This was not the case before update " - The direction change has a delay implemented, no Beyblade spinning in hub anymore."

It might sound a minor thing but it affect a lot. It mostly affect hexing and melee gameplay when every tiny bit of delays affecting a lot. I think Zmeja was one who noticed this first.

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Re: Turning + Attack delay
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2018, 03:15 »
I just tested and it seems like you are correct.

I already have a delay from living in NA but recently I've noticed this delay has gotten significantly worse and is now almost always there even though my ping has remained the same, so this turning bug would explain this. But this delay is also true now for opening doors, wall lockers, etc. which was never been the case before unless a random ping spike occurs. So maybe this turning bug is causing this too or rather just a completely separate issue altogether.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2018, 04:17 by Xero »

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Re: Turning + Attack delay
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2018, 07:04 »
We had some discussion about this and it seems like it is feature not bug. Unintented feature thought, so we just need to adopt this.

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Re: Turning + Attack delay
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2018, 14:48 »
"unintended" feature? Uh what?
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Re: Turning + Attack delay
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2018, 15:57 »
FOV refresh during rotation is synchronised with server response time, thats why we have that delay. Obviously it has impact on all actions involving fov changes.
Why isnt called bug? Because there is some logic and realism in fact that for example "motionless" shooting taking less time that rotating + shooting. Obviously it has some impact on game, but hard to say thats negative, its more like small additional factor to care of.
Anyway, that FOV change (with that delay) was implemented month ago and there wasnt much feedback about, so most likely for majority of players thats not a problem.

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Re: Turning + Attack delay
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2018, 19:15 »
There was no feedback on the issue because people attritbuted it to server lag, not server delay response time. People didn’t know there would be a delay in an action if you weren’t facing the side you’re shooting at.
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Re: Turning + Attack delay
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2018, 20:24 »
Most people have not noticed or ever notice the difference

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Re: Turning + Attack delay
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2018, 17:25 »
Hmm... So its the reason why im soo nooby nowadays... Ouuugh!
I was saying it is lag fault all of time but delay time problem sounds better...
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Re: Turning + Attack delay
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2018, 23:15 »
Honestly, this delay should be removed since rotating your character is one way to stop rubberbanding.

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Re: Turning + Attack delay
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2018, 08:09 »
+1 for this suggestion!

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Re: Turning + Attack delay
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2018, 16:10 »
thats why is better clicking 2-4-6 hexes around you, faster, (make you have AC?),  but exhaustive. I even hear about autoclicker for that  ;D

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Re: Turning + Attack delay
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2018, 23:23 »
thats why is better clicking 2-4-6 hexes around you, faster, (make you have AC?),  but exhaustive. I even hear about autoclicker for that  ;D

That works, but can hard to do in places with 1-2 hex pathways like Glow.

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Re: Turning + Attack delay
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2019, 12:58 »
bumping, because this delay bug is anything but negligible and acceptable, and on top of that extremely overlooked at. i dont know what this feature was supposed to fix, because the desync between server and client when rotating around is still there, (see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM3oE6JPQMU) along with a bunch of other stuff which makes you lose APs while no action happened. so this addition rather seems like some kind of a coding jerk off to show that yes, we are now able to do this, as this feature was introduced right after the source code of fonline became open. so right, i dont know what it supposed to fix, instead i can tell you what it actually broke: bursters, and hexing in general.

i did some testing and calculating, though i am not too smart when it comes to this stuff, ill try to explain my methodology:
recorded a clip in 60fps to measure the additional delay when the character needs to turn, my ping is between 50-70, though i didnt notice much difference when my ping was slightly higher, lets say 90-100.

simply shooting to enemy in a straight line took 7 frames, from the point when i lost aps until the actual damage was scored on character. if we count 7/60=0,11 seconds delay, this equals to 110ms. this was the standard delay for a long time.
when the character had to rotate, it took 19 frames under same condition, that is 19/60=0,31 seconds delay, which equals to 310ms. this is how it is for about a year now, not including lag spikes of server etc.

probably not the best methodology to measure this and probably there are people playing this game who could explain this better, however the point i am trying to make here is that the impact is huge here, especially as the server is laggy enough, we dont need any more delay added to the gameplay. please consider disabling and reverting this feature.

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Re: Turning + Attack delay
« Reply #13 on: Today at 02:12 »
I'm a terrible burster, but this fov feature coupled with my ping has made it almost impossible for me to hex another player unless he runs into me or is immobile from a KD/KO. Its come to the point where I literally have no chance against an EU/Russian player as a burster; in fact, some of them are well aware of it and actually taunt me by moving a single hex in one direction at a time knowing that any attempt to hex them, because of the delay, will result in a ranged burst. It's taken all the fun out of playing burster away from me.
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