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Evader - Incorrect SPECIAL data
« on: January 08, 2014, 17:27 »
When picking up Evader trait, with EN = 10, you getting error "Incorrect SPECIAL data", after clicking "done" button.

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Re: Evader - Incorrect SPECIAL data
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2014, 17:44 »
That is Correct, maximum EN with Evader is 8.

It is a deal between sniper Evasion and 40 hp on lvl 27

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Re: Evader - Incorrect SPECIAL data
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2014, 19:19 »
So, you need to limit it up to 8, once trait is picked up, not to get errors.

Btw, it's not correct, because player may arrange his SPECIAL points based on the total limit, 10 points.
Once you picked up bonehead trait, for example, which gives you -1 to IN; it does not limit to get 10 IN with that trait.

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Re: Evader - Incorrect SPECIAL data
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2014, 19:53 »
So, you need to limit it up to 8, once trait is picked up, not to get errors.

Btw, it's not correct, because player may arrange his SPECIAL points based on the total limit, 10 points.
Once you picked up bonehead trait, for example, which gives you -1 to IN; it does not limit to get 10 IN with that trait.

Check in Game no 10 Int with Bonehead no 1/2/3 St with Bruiser, it is Correct like it is now.
Idk how much work is needed to Change the maximum/minimum SPECIAl stats when xy trait is taken but this is such a small "bug" that never annoyed me

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Re: Evader - Incorrect SPECIAL data
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2014, 19:08 »
That is Correct, maximum EN with Evader is 8.

It is a deal between sniper Evasion and 40 hp on lvl 27

i dont think so - 2 en not only give you hp but bonus roll to evade ko/kd, cripple etc.,
its suport stonewal en*5%
 so you lose a lot more then 2 specjal and hp points. to get this 10% less to hit chance.
with cap on 8 to me its not worth to take.

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Re: Evader - Incorrect SPECIAL data
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2014, 19:50 »
That is Correct, maximum EN with Evader is 8.

It is a deal between sniper Evasion and 40 hp on lvl 27

i dont think so - 2 en not only give you hp but bonus roll to evade ko/kd, cripple etc.,
its suport stonewal en*5%
 so you lose a lot more then 2 specjal and hp points. to get this 10% less to hit chance.
with cap on 8 to me its not worth to take.

Buffout give +1 EN.

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Re: Evader - Incorrect SPECIAL data
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2014, 20:08 »
85% is 12 bullets from avenger instead of 14 or minus ~38dmg from 1 burst or ~76dmg from 2 bursts OR ~100dmg from 1 hex burst. Still not worth?

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Re: Evader - Incorrect SPECIAL data
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2014, 21:27 »
interesting ~38dmg ?

max hit from av : 15 +4 (2xbrd) = 19
now for exaple it was crit x2dmg (almost best you can have in av)
so 19x2=38
now av ammo is 2/3 so 25
now enemy have only CAII and x2 tg =56 DR so 14dmg
in 2 hits max he can get is 28dmg
usualy it will be 15-20dmg
its true that sometimes its miss more then 2 but sometimes there are no misses so all in god/random hands.

for 1 hex dmg its also diferent. (more random, sometimes amazigly lower dmg, sometimes do almost nothing).

form me not worth it ( dont plan attack on one hex and dont plan enemy get close enuf to one hex me - more afraid of snipers)



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Re: Evader - Incorrect SPECIAL data
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2014, 22:11 »
I have to be the Bad Guy again....
Evader dont have a Effect on Bursts, i had it in regular Game Season and there is no Different in DMG with a Non-Evader build

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Re: Evader - Incorrect SPECIAL data
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2014, 22:27 »
 i made quick test especialy for Eclair  ;]
attacker player : 23% crit chance, +20 crtit roll, x2 brd fire regular AV

                                                                          burst
player (with Evader): 237dmg, 294dmg, 245dmg, 293dmg, 333dmg
player (no Evader) :      263dmg, 291dmg, 288dmg, 318dmg, 309dmg
76DR - standard stuff etc.

propably working but in av dmg is so wide/random than you will see difrence when you have over 400hp 85+DR and make test how often you can get two 1hex and still standing on feat with evader and without it.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2014, 22:33 by atomicpanda »